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Friday, November 17, 2006

no more pushing blackberry mail through Yahoo!

a few months back I had a problem when using gmail's filters to foward mail to my tmobile blackberry... if someone would send me a attachment over 5mb's tmobile would return the mail to sender... the gmail filters would think that address isn't working anymore and then stop forwarding...

so what i did was fwd gmail to yahoo and push mail from yahoo to my blackberry... that strategy worked and stopped the problem of large attachments from stopping gmail filters to my tmo.blackberry.net address...

however that solution brought about a problem because Yahoo push mail was not at all timely... there times when I would get my email 4hrs to 8hrs later... not exactly pushmail
when I contact RIM their reply was:
"We have gone back to how the system used to work and that is based of a 900 second (15 minutes) polling interval until we can get the issue resolved between Yahoo email server communicating with our systems, the Yahoo Mail Server are suppose to notify our mail system when there is a new email in your inbox, but they have not been doing that on a consistent basis, so that is why we have gone to a consistent interval of 900 seconds."

Tmobile has recently upgraded the attachment size limit to 8MB... thereby reducing the chance of that happening... I'm now on Sprint and their attachment limit is 11MB so that's sure not going to happen... now the mail can go from gmail to blackberry without a middle man...

not sure but does Gmail allow pushmail to the blackberry? does anyone know?

"We were trying to make the email experience better for our users," he said. "We ended up making it better for yours, too." ~Buchheit


http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB113513060952028080-FphgngKufzazqjmsp2vkGNe7SVU_20060120.html?mod=blogs


The Men Who Came
To Dinner, and What
They Said About Email
December 21, 2005; Page B1

The three programmers spend their days developing what each hopes will be the world's best email program -- and trying to beat the pants off each other. They spent an evening last week at my dinner table, talking about it all.

Email is one of the liveliest niches in tech right now. Google, Microsoft and Yahoo all view it as a key to winning new customers and making money off current ones. And so they are innovating with new email programs and services all the time.

Since all three companies' email teams are in my neck of the woods, I thought it would be fun to have the heads of each team come over one night for dinner and conversation. The three companies were good sports and agreed, in part because I said I wasn't interested in a shouting match.

As it happened, Google's Paul Buchheit, 29 years old; Kevin Doerr, 39, of Microsoft (no relation to the venture capitalist) and Ethan Diamond, 34, of Yahoo were all on their best behavior. Whatever they may say about their competitors at work, at my table they were gracious and complimentary. Gentle teasing was about as far as they would go.

The evening began with even the Microsoft and Yahoo delegates agreeing that much of the current excitement in the email world can be traced back to last year's debut of Mr. Buchheit's Gmail. The program had a fast user interface with a fresh new look, along with a then-remarkable gigabyte of free storage.

Mr. Buchheit said he started working on Gmail after observing that other email programs were getting worse, not better. Microsoft's Mr. Doerr said that at his company, Gmail was a thunderbolt. "You guys woke us up," he told Mr. Buchheit. Yahoo's Mr. Diamond, then at a startup with its own hot, new email program, said Gmail was the final impetus that Yahoo needed to buy his company.

Mr. Buchheit responded with a victory lap. "We were trying to make the email experience better for our users," he said. "We ended up making it better for yours, too."

The evening wasn't all a Gmail love-in, though. The Microsoft and Yahoo representatives said their many millions of users might not accept some of Gmail's departures from email norms, such as the way the program groups messages into "conversations." The two men also razzed Mr. Buchheit a bit, saying that it had been easy for Google to promise a lot of storage to its users because it carefully controlled how many users Gmail would have by requiring an invitation to get an account.

Indeed, more than 18 months after its unveiling, Gmail is still a beta, or "test" product. But so are the new email versions the Microsoft and Yahoo programmers are working on. And no one is saying when any of the beta periods will be over.

Whatever early lead Gmail may have had in creating a next-generation email program, both Microsoft and Yahoo have more than caught up. I wondered out loud to Mr. Buchheit if Gmail, the pioneer, might now be falling behind. "There is a lot more we want to build," he responded.

I asked each to say what in his product he was most proud of. Mr. Diamond noted that in Yahoo's mail program, users can see their entire inbox in a single screen, rather than having to page through it screenload after screenload. It was a hard feature to add, he said. The other two men nodded their heads in agreement; neither has yet matched it.

Mr. Buchheit said what he most liked about Gmail is the ease and fluidity with which it lets him work with his messages.

Mr. Doerr noted the powerful desktop-like features of his Microsoft product, such as the on-the-fly spell checking of messages as they are typed.

The men reported similar pressures: cranky users of Web browsers with tiny market shares demanding that their browsers be supported, while not appreciating how much work is involved. And the struggle to find a way to innovate with a product -- but not so much that existing customers will be alienated.

At one point, Mr. Doerr wondered when the new Yahoo mail program would have the whimsical touch of other Yahoo products. "It's not Yahoo yet," he said to Mr. Diamond. "It's not fun."

The latter concurred, replying, in effect, "Just you wait."

While all three talked about the pressure of having to present the product to the big boss, Mr. Diamond had the best such story. He told of nervously showing his software to Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang, who at the time was pacing around the room gripping a golf club. Mr. Diamond said that all the while he kept thinking of a similar scene in "The Untouchables," but one involving a baseball bat and, in the end, considerably more violence.

When the end of the evening came, everyone seemed sated with good food and pleasant company, to the point where there was talk about gathering again in a year to look back on the email events of 2006.

Who knows? Maybe the three products will be out of beta by then. And maybe a glove or two will come off as a result.

Write to Lee Gomes at lee.gomes@wsj.com

very true Gmail Engineer Mike Sego says the smallest things make the difference



When people write articles about Gmail, they usually focus on the big stuff, like how we offer 2.7+ gigs of free storage. But I've actually found that some of the smallest features we've launched have made just as big of a difference, at least to me and the way I use email.

For starters, Gmail has helped eliminate a bunch of duplicate replies that I used to get in mailing lists. You know how a lot of times someone will email a list and get a bunch of responses from different people that all say roughly the same thing? Last week, we added a feature where if I'm a reading an email conversation, or replying to one, and someone else replies to the same email, a notification pops up telling me there's a new message. Then I just click a link and Gmail adds the message to the conversation. This is also great because it means I don’t end up being embarrassed by responding to a list just as someone else is sending a response that’s way better.

There are a few other gems that have made email just work better for me: viewing attachments in HTML instead of downloading all of them; replying by chat rather than email when I need a quick answer; and the ability to chat with someone even when they're offline, and have those chats show up in their inbox when they sign in again.

These smaller features never get as much attention as the big ones, but I think they deserve it. They've changed the way I email, and made me grateful to the people who spend the time to get the little things right.

Wednesday, November 15, 2006

moving from tmobile 8700g to sprint 8703e a mini review

quick points on difference for people looking to switch

+ Broadband(browsing from phone not so great/Phone as Modem(great)
+ coverage - better in tough buildings/subways
+ 11MB limit as opposed to 5MB(bttr for fwd emails, don't have to route email to other servers)
+ GPS, Keyboard(better solid feel), Screen res,All black(8700G is dark blue)
+ Ringtones sound MUCH better not as loud as on the 00G
+ Easier to hear people
- No delivery reports on txt msgs
- Can't txt out while on the phone only incomin txt
- Hard on conferencing
- More Expensive(phone n plan)
- Battery life short
- MM6500 not MM6800 chip(explain in the previous blog)

t-mobile 8700G chip faster/web than Sprint 8703E

8700G chip faster/web than 8703E
I have both the 8700G from T-Mobile and the 8703E from Sprint... I thought the 8703E would be 10X faster than the 8700G when using the web because it has 3G... BUT the 8700G beat the 8703E slightly each time download OTA apps or browsing... in the new york area..

after looking more into the chips side of the device, I can see why the 8700G still browses faster on EDGE than the 8703E on EVDO

those of you with 8700G's thinking of moving to the 8703E for faster speeds, think twice... it will only make sense you wanted to use the device as a modem, sprint currently has 39.99 unlimted with a phone as modem feature.

8700G(312 MHz Intel PXA901 Hermon)
-JBenchmark 1: 1251
-JBenchmark 2: 72
8703E9(MSM 6500"ARM926EJ-S")
-JBenchmark 1: 741
-JBenchmark 2: 47
more on the Qualcomm chip MSM6500 Chipset Solution
from the info on the page it appears like it supports Rev A. for speeds up to to 3.1 Mbits/se when used as a modem

DETAILS BELOW
8700G
JBenchmark 1: 1251
Details:
Text: 285
2D Shapes: 286
3D Shapes: 285
Fill Rate: 105
Animation: 290

JBenchmark 2: 72
Details:
Image Manipulation: 65
Text: 183
Sprites: 25
3D Transform: 92
User Interface: 68

8703E
JBenchmark 1: 741
Details:
Text: 145
2D Shapes: 163
3D Shapes: 173
Fill Rate: 60
Animation: 200

JBenchmark 2: 47
Details:
Image Manipulation: 34
Text: 120
Sprites: 18
3D Transform: 53
User Interface: 55

Thursday, December 15, 2005

Outlook Rules for Blackberry/Gmail Setup

So here is how I completed your setup. I've got Outlook XP on my PC for
Gmail Pop/SMTP. I'm using your trick to route my Blackberry email through my
Gmail via BCC and forward via filters. In addition I created a rule in
Outlook that checks and automatically saves my sent email (coming from
BCC/or Gmail Sent as new email when Outlook "pops" for it) in my Outlook
Sent folder, marking it unread. I've attached a visual that illustrates the
rule. It's very simple. Now with my Blackberry as the frontrunner device,
I've got synchronization with gmail (worldwide) and my PC Outlook
(domestic). "Out of town but the Blueberry still connect..."

By M Easy

Wednesday, December 14, 2005

Blackberry email forwarding from Gmail to blackberry using yahoo doesn't work well

see updated post above why the folllowing below doesn't workwell

The post below falls true if you forward your gmail to your tmobile blackberry:


PROBLEM: When mail bounces when sent to tmo.blackberry.net if its over 5mb. Then gmail filters stop forwarding that email to your tmo.blackberry.net. You stop receiving your mail and have to log on at a computer to 'try again' the filters to make it work.

SOLUTION:
Use Yahoo!'s new free push mail to tmobile.

You would use the same filtering techniques as described above. But forward your g-mail to your yahoo email. Then set up a pop account at www.tmobile.com to your blackberry.

Note: when you set up the pop for yahoo, you can use any address that is legitmately yours. It doesn't have to be the yahoo address.. e.g. you can use my8700@gmail.com

~ BlackBerryBlackBelt

Shout outs to M Easy for telling me I should post this

Wednesday, January 19, 2005

Gmail on blackberry update

Greetings,

I got a comment from a user that I decided to add here as a blog and explain it a bit further. As it's very insightful. I don't know your name or nickname but that's a lot.

The person wrote:
You can actually keep the spam (at least the messages that Gmail thinks are spam) away also. Just add "in:spam" to the "Doesn't Contain:" field in the filter. Despite all indications to the contrary (including the error message that follows, which you should ignore) this will keep spam from being forwarded.

By doing the above you avoid gmail forwarding spam as well to your device. Or you can use the fitlers as explained in the previous post.

"A phone isn't a smart phone if it can't google".
~BlackBerryBlackBelt

Monday, January 03, 2005

how to use Gmail Filtering to "sync/push" to your blackberry

I have discovered that using the Gmail filter to foward mail to your
BlackBerry works like a Charm! Most importantly it gives you push
Gmail on your BB and keeps your mail insync with your Gmail account.

Here's how it works:
A. Use the Gmail filter to foward msgs written
to:urn...@regularaddress.com or urn...@Gmail.com to your
@tmo.blackberry.net.

B. To have your sent mail written from your BB to copy to your Gmail.
On the Blackberry Web Client, BCC:urn...@Gmail.com. As you have set
the filter, it only to fowards mail written to:, not the bcc: you
won't get your sent mail coming back to your BB.

Three problems occur when you use Gmail's forwarding not the filter
forwarding.

1. it also fowards the SPAM. Most SPAM that arrives on Gmail isn't
written to: your address. SPAM as we know, can be annoying on the BB.

2. If you want to store your sent mail on Gmail, the sent mail comes
back to you.

3. Gmail's mail forwarding is smart, so if for some reason it can't
reach the address it's fowarding to. It stops sending mail to that
address.

Using the Gmail filter you can foward all your mail to your one gmail
account and use the Gmail filter to forward the mail to those addresses
to your BB. Using the filter also avoids the three problems listed
above.
~BlackBelt
"Gmail is to Email what the iPod is to music" ~ blackbelt